Debenu Quick PDF Library - PDF SDK Community Forum : Version 5.12 of QuickPDF http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 04 May 2026 09:51:04 +0000 Sun, 25 Dec 2005 15:04:09 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 11.01 360 www.quickpdf.org/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=207 <![CDATA[Debenu Quick PDF Library - PDF SDK Community Forum]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/forum_images/QPDF_Forum_Title.png http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/ <![CDATA[Version 5.12 of QuickPDF : Hi Michel! Few of us have already...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post778.html#778 Author: Ingo
Subject: 207
Posted: 25 Dec 05 at 3:04PM

Hi Michel!
Few of us have already payed for the source code. Should they pay, too?
I think these people should be members of the new organization without paying anything.
Option #2 seems for me the best. We can start "soft" now and "big" later if the original iSED-Domain left the web.
For the "new organization" we should buy the latest sources fast... perhaps in two months it's impossible? One problem: WHICH sources? There are many versions?
I'll need as minimum version for d5, better d2005, best d2006 ;-)
]]> Sun, 25 Dec 2005 15:04:09 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post778.html#778 <![CDATA[Version 5.12 of QuickPDF : I agree. I belive that the word...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post773.html#773 Author: Michel_K17
Subject: 207
Posted: 24 Dec 05 at 9:46AM

I agree. I belive that the word used in the license is "organization", which, I agree, is a pretty loose definition. So, it would go something like this:

OPTION #1
   
  1. We create an "Organization" (quickpdf.org),
  2. Users have to join to become a member of the organization.
  3. Members have to pay a nominal fee to join (I'm thinking $5) so that we can claim that we are not providing the source code for "free".
  4. Members agree to share liability in defending any future claims. I believe that if we establish a non-profit "Limited Liability Company" (LLC) then the only thing that is at risk is the investment made which would be the $5 original investment times the number of members.
  5. We get to work. :-)
  6. We use the $5 fees to legally purchase the source code, maintain the web site, etc.


OPTION #2
   
  1. We create an "Organization" (quickpdf.org),
  2. Users have to join to become a member of the organization.
  3. Members pay nothing to join. (We ask for donations?)
  4. Members agree to share liability in defending any future claims. I'm thinking that collecting damages from a group of people throughout the World would be a difficult task.
  5. We send an e-mail to Michael Khumano explaining our intentions and give him 30 days to tell us that what we are thinking of doing is not acceptable to him. We also state that no reply will be taken as an agreement.
  6. We legally purchase the source code (split the cost amongst members), maintain the web site, etc.
  7. We get to work. :-)


   I'm really happy to see the amount of discussion on this topic. Thank you. We could be on to something. I will check the local (Kansas) laws to see what would be required. It is really easy to establish an LLC for an individual, but harder for a group of "investors". The attraction of creating an LLC would be the protection it offers from future lawsuits. I think we might need the help of a lawyer. I'm also a bit worried about the tax implications of collecting a fee.

   I'm thinking that we should not establish this "organization" until after iSed's web site disappears off the internet so that we can also claim later that we only acted in the best interest of the product. The disapearance of the web site would be a clear sign that the product has been "abandoned". (but we can purchase the source code before hand.

   We should also consider purchasing ised's domain name as well when it becomes available, if anything just to use it to redirect traffic to our own web site.

   Any comments?]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2005 09:46:05 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post773.html#773 <![CDATA[Version 5.12 of QuickPDF : Great idea Ingo! Count me in. If...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post772.html#772 Author: SuperDave
Subject: 207
Posted: 24 Dec 05 at 9:11AM

Great idea Ingo!
Count me in.
If there are any others like seva who are watching this forum and worrying about iSedQP then add yourself to the "www.quickpdf.org-community" site list and the cost will come down for us all.
SD]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2005 09:11:04 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post772.html#772 <![CDATA[Version 5.12 of QuickPDF : I will be interest too. ]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post771.html#771 Author: seva
Subject: 207
Posted: 24 Dec 05 at 8:55AM

I will be interest too.

]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:55:41 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post771.html#771 <![CDATA[Version 5.12 of QuickPDF : Hi Dave! I don&#039;t know if...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post770.html#770 Author: Ingo
Subject: 207
Posted: 24 Dec 05 at 6:33AM

Hi Dave!

I don't know if it's legal but it's called "Site license
Including full source code 500.00 per site".
So why don't buy the sources with a few interested users here as the "www.quickpdf.org-community" (that's a site ;-)
If we are four or so i'll be interested, too.
]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2005 06:33:58 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post770.html#770 <![CDATA[Version 5.12 of QuickPDF : Hi Guys, This is a great idea...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post766.html#766 Author: SuperDave
Subject: 207
Posted: 24 Dec 05 at 5:23AM

Hi Guys,
This is a great idea and I'd really like to take part but the cost of the source code ($500) makes it an expensive club to buy into!!!]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2005 05:23:40 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post766.html#766 <![CDATA[Version 5.12 of QuickPDF : You bet! The source code changes...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post724.html#724 Author: Michel_K17
Subject: 207
Posted: 18 Dec 05 at 4:45PM

You bet! The source code changes are the ones already posted by Steve (nickname: swb1), and I have not received the changes from JanN (see his post above).

Good news: we already have a "Bug Reports" section in the forum for the purpose you suggested. It is located here:
http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=12

Finally, I will be working in the new year in a more organized and formal method to track bugs and changes as well as versioning so that everybody knows where we are, and where we need to go. I may even go as far as publishing with everybody's help a "roadmap".

And it sounds like you might even help us with your programming skills. That would be really great!

Cheers!


Edited by Michel_K17]]> Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:45:11 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post724.html#724 <![CDATA[Version 5.12 of QuickPDF : Hi Michael, Any chance of posting...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post722.html#722 Author: winalot
Subject: 207
Posted: 18 Dec 05 at 3:56PM

Hi Michael,

Any chance of posting the actual source code line changes?

In this manner those of use who have the source can incorporate the fixes into our code and still maintain source rather than just grab your DCU's.

I'm guessing the snippets of code will not be illegal as only someone with source will make use of them?

BTW: Can we start a thread clearly stating all known bugs in QuickPDF? Then those with source could potentially fix known issues (I know I'd look into fixing them).

Keep up the good work.

Thanks]]> Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:56:02 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post722.html#722 <![CDATA[Version 5.12 of QuickPDF : Hi! Very cool i ;-) ...and i think...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post720.html#720 Author: Ingo
Subject: 207
Posted: 16 Dec 05 at 5:58PM

Hi!
Very cool i ;-)
...and i think it's legal.
]]> Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:58:33 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post720.html#720 <![CDATA[Version 5.12 of QuickPDF : Cool. Will it be the Delphi version...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post718.html#718 Author: chicks
Subject: 207
Posted: 16 Dec 05 at 3:18PM

Cool. Will it be the Delphi version only, or do you have the build scripts for the ActiveX and DLL versions as well?
]]> Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:18:05 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/version-512-of-quickpdf_topic207_post718.html#718